Did Jesus Rebuke His Mother in Luke 8:19-21?

Yesterday’s Gospel is an easy one to stumble over as Catholics. It’s from Luke 8:19-21, while Jesus is teaching the crowds:

Then His Mother and His brothers came to Him but were unable to join Him because of the crowd. He was told, “Your Mother and Your brothers are standing outside and they wish to see you.” He said to them in reply, “My Mother and My brothers are those who hear the word of God and act on it.”

A few chapters later, we hear something similar (Luke 11:27-28):

While He was speaking, a woman from the crowd called out and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that carried you and the breasts at which you nursed.” He replied, “Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.”
What’s going on here? Is Jesus denouncing His Mother?
Nope.  Rather, He’s showing that it’s primarily faith, not blood relation, that matters.  In the case of Mary, She was connected to Christ in both ways.  It’s precisely because of Her faith that She became His Mother.
Compare the passage above to a third scene from Luke’s Gospel, Luke 1:41-45,

When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, “Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. 

And how does this happen to me, that the Mother of my Lord should come to me? For at the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy. Blessed are you who believed that what was spoken to you by the Lord would be fulfilled.

At first, Elizabeth’s Holy Spirit-inspired prayer to Mary sounds very similar to what the woman in the crowd shouted to Jesus in Luke 11.  Both Elizabeth and the woman in the crowd talk about Mary’s blessedness.  But Elizabeth, being filled with the Holy Spirit, is able to understand that Mary is blessed for is her faith, not because of Who she’s related to.

Obviously, Jesus isn’t denying that Mary is blessed. He’s not contradicting the Holy Spirit.  And we shouldn’t read His words in Luke 8 or Luke 11 as a rebuke of His Mother.  Instead, we should see them as an invitation.

Mary is both the biological Mother of Jesus, and His most devoted follower.  But which of these two traits matters more to Jesus?  Would it be better to be a faithless blood relative, or a faithful foreigner?  The answer is obvious to us today, but it wasn’t always so. So what Jesus is rebuking is the idea that if you come from a holy family, you’re set.

The Old Testament contains plenty of multi-generational blessings and curses, and some people appear to have reacted by deciding that they must enjoy God’s favor, since they come from a good family.  Jesus rebukes this idea with stunning clarity in John 8:39.  When the people in the crowd boasted, “Our father is Abraham,” Jesus replied: “If you were Abraham’s children, you would be doing the works of Abraham,” and accuses them of having the devil for their father (John 8:44).

In other words, the most important fatherhood is spiritual, not biological.  That’s true, whether we’re talking about God’s Fatherhood, or Abraham’s, or even the devil’s.  The same is true of motherhood and brotherhood.  This doesn’t diminish the biological family at all, but draws it up into something more perfect.  Dads should be spiritual fathers to their kids, moms should be spiritual mothers to their kids, and children should treat one another as spiritual brethren.

Like I said, Jesus’ emphasis on faith over bloodlines is an awesome invitation. You and I can’t trace our bloodline to Jesus of Nazareth.  But Jesus’ point is that this doesn’t matter.  Mary, with of her unparalleled faith, become the biological Mother of God, and His most devoted follower.  We’re not going to become His biological kin, but we can join His family through faith.

We see this throughout the New Testament.  God is our spiritual Father (Matthew 6:9), the Woman (an image of Mary and the Church) is depicted as our spiritual Mother (Revelation 12:7), and we’re each others’ spiritual brothers and sisters (1 Corinthians 7:15).

We can approach God Himself as if He were our biological Father, and so we’re urged to “draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need” (Hebrews 4:16). That’s (literally) awesome.

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    1. What is good to reflect on ? That Rome is deceived into following pagan practices and making the same mistakes as the jews did !! The Lord would send his prophets to rebuke the jews in those days !! Who is standing up rebuking Catholicism today ? Not hardly anyone !! Catholicism is like Goliath the giant : who will oneday Fall and be put to death ! By the Son of David …Jesus Christ !! Then those that were deceived by Catholicism will fall with her into eternal hell fire forever !! Rev 18:4 KJV read it and come out of her !!

      1. It is hard for me to fathom how the devil has closed your eyes and ears. God will save you in time.

        1. You do err from the truth ? Search the Scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life ? But there be them that testify of me / this scriptures is the words of Jesus : the reason why so many take the wide path that leads to destruction is because they are deceived by the devil and follow a work based salvation? I tell the Lost of the world in Catholicism to seek the real truth of Ephesians 2:8,9kjv !! Except the free Gift by Faith alone in Christ alone to receive his grace alone ? The keeping of sacraments will not save the soul ! Flee from from the devils deception? False Religions Exsposed.com / Roman Catholicism? Check it out ? What you believe determines where your soul shall end up in eternity? Peace spoken in Love of Jesus Christ

          1. You fail to see that God only started two religions: Judaism and Catholicism. All others are manufactured by man and have flaws, including those protesting against the one true and Holy Roman Catholic faith. In fact, the Protestants make up lies about Catholics, edit the Holy Scriptures by deleting verses and books which don’t agre with their distorted view on religion (and will pay for it in the fires of Hell as per Revelation). Of course, there are laughable Protestant translations of Scripture, including the King James version. Do you believe everything in your KJV is true? Then you believe in unicorns, which are mentioned twice!

          2. I really feel sorry for the souls that have been duped by the devils lies ? They never open up Thier kJV Bible of the Word ,? If they did they would see Jesus saying : call no man on earth Father for Thier is but one Father which is in Heaven? But Catholics don’t care about what the Lords word is saying ; they would rather be deceived worshipping Jesus in vain into following the traditions of men ? The commandments of men ? And the doctrines of devils : unfortunately they blasphemy of the ritual Eucharist want save your soul from Hellfire by crucifying Jesus over and over on your alters ? Trampling underfoot the Son of God with a reprobate mind of Catholicism/ what you believe is where you will spend eternity/ Catholics are on the road to Hell ! Said in rebuke with Love of Christ

      2. Use to be Catholic. Found the truth. Am literally telling all my Catholic friends the truth about worshiping saints and Mary. They’re so into these rituals taught by the Romans, my explanation of the Greek statues was completely ignored. I planted the seed with all 10 of them. Now I’m praying to God to send them a supernatural dream or experience so they can ask me about it

        1. I am still Catholic. But, I agree with Kim wholeheartedly. I have never prayed to Mary. I have occasionally asked for intercessory prayer from a saint, but I ask for intercessory prayers from my Christian friends, so that’s really not that out of the ordinary. Catholicism is consumed with Mariolatry. I have pushed back against it and not made any friends by doing so. I don’t know whether or not I will leave the church, it seems that every church you go to has its own unique flaws.

          1. How can one say I used to a Catholic but still am ? That’s like saying I used to be a serial killer but still am ? Ridiculous at best ? If you remain as a Catholic you only become further deceived by Thier demonic teachings and sink further into Thier demises; rev 18;4 come out from among them my people that ye be not part of her sins that ye receive not her plaques; those who remain in Catholicism suffer much unnecessary health problems had they just got out ?

          2. Dear Shane / if you remain in Catholicism you shall surely never find truth ? For Thier is no truth where Thier is lies ? For to worship the True Lord God of the Bible one must worship him in Spirit and in Truth ? Roman Catholicism is full of the devils lie and mix just enough truth/ of scriptures into it to captivate the followers ? You are part of work based salvation thru sacraments/ called works ; if a man deceived by Satan thinks he can play a role in his own salvation thru works than it is no more of Grace ? You see Shane you walk a tight rope over the eternal fires of Hellfire with your soul in balance ? Romans 11;6 kJV if it be of WORKS ! It is. NO MORE OF GRACE !! The Grace that would be given to the believer is canceled out by Thier works ! The keeping of sacraments cannot save your Soul ? But surly will condemn you in hell ; you should study to show thyself approved in the KJV and turn away from the lies of a Latin vulgate heresy of scriptures/ I warn many in this world out of Love for the Lord wishes that none should perish but that all should repent ( have a change of mind )? And turn from evil and seek the Good ; turn from darkness into the Light / rev 18;4 read it out of a kJV Bible ! Your souls destiny depends on what the Truth of the Gospel is / For Jesus said to them in his day / like Roman Catholics today would hear ? Ye worship me with your mouth and your lips but your hearts are far from me saith the Lord Christ !

          3. The Lord is slowly been opening your eyes to his truth The Fact is that in Catholicism the blind leaders lead the blind ? And according to Holy scriptures they both fall into the ditch ( Hell ). Unfortunately Roman Vaticanus knows this so they hide their heresy gospel with a made up doctrine of purgatory. , teaching that The Lord wants all saved and gives many including Roman Catholics a second chance after death , souls being cleansed in fire / this lie is straight from hell’s paganism the Greek river of Styx ; a myth at best ; but because Catholics want open a kJV Bible a read the Lords word for themselves they are easy prey for Satan to manipulate/ Jesus would say to Roman Catholicism today : in vain do ye worship me teaching after the traditions of men the commandments of men and the doctrines of devils / I do not hate the Catholics I want them saved , but as long as they remain In Romes snare of Bondage of men’s souls they will remain captive ; revelation 17 calls Rome mystery Babylonian the abomination of the earth / The whore that sits on 7 mountains ( hills ) / revelation 18;4 kJV / come out from among her my people and be ye not part of her sins that receive not her plaques for her sins have reached all the way into Heaven and the Lord God has remembered them / flee from her idolatry and prayers for the dead of nacremacy which the Lord hates / for He saith The Lord of Host : Iam a God of the Living and not the dead ! Let the dead bury the dead / Lord Jesus open the blinded eyes and anointing of them that thy might see and believe on thee and thy word for thy word is truth !

          4. Hi I highly recommend you listen to Catholic answers dr. David Anders is a show for Protestants brothers and sisters. I was lost and I called many times with questions and now I’m found I love my faith and I will pray for you that you come back home.

          5. I suggest you go to FALSE RELIGIONS EXSPOSED.com ( Jesus is savior) ? And come to realize you have become connected to the apostate church of a work based salvation thru sacrements which can never save ! Revelation 18;4 kJV is your only answer as being deceived by Catholicism.

      3. 7. [1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. proverb If you judge or condemn someone else, you stand to be judged or condemned according to the same standard; do not judge unsympathetically or hypocritically. The phrase was said by Jesus in the Bible (Matthew 7:1).

        1. Judge with righteous judgement saith the Lord ! The KJV / For all scriptures is inspired by God. And is profitable for doctrine , for REPROVE , For CORRECTION , For instructions in RIGHTEOUSNESS, that the man of God may be perfect , throughly furnished unto all Good works ! But some reason these Roman Catholics only think Thier Fathers and Priest are the only soul on earth to give correction/ and instructions in righteousness? What a joke : Roman Catholicism will led many Souls into Hellfire not ( the lie of purgatory) because they are latter cast into the Lake of Fire ! I pray that you heed the warnings The Lord gave in REVELATION 18;4 kJV. Come out from among her my people ( RCC) and be not part of sins that you receive not her plaques;

          1. On behalf of what you wrote that I read, I believe you are called by God to test those who are not thinking about what they cannot understand in His word vs. the words that do not reflect on His. The harshness is what causes the anger and that is not a sin. However, the point that you are trying to make might be said better if you point to the bleeding and dying Jesus in the Church of God displayed for not just the saints, but for God to see in His House where they go to worship Him. Jesus has resurrected and is at the right hand of His Father in Heaven! That point should eliminate the horrifying torment that already happened and is remembered no more by His own body. Whether they use traditional religious ceremonial rituals for their redemption of sin or not, the one thing I know God could not find pleasure in, is that His Son’s suffering in living color at the head of His table… could be worthy of bowing down to in front of little children. [Should God be Humbled by the Devil?]

      4. Very refreshing comments. Scripture repeatedly shows Christ consistently rejected “any special authority” to mary, even to a woman in the crowd who stated a ‘hail mary’ for mary? Sadly, many fail to study the “words of God’s scripture, easily ‘falling for RC church “unbiblical mythology?”

        1. When I search the scriptures to find ourselves approved saith the Lord / and ask for the guidance of the Holy Spirit to guide us ? It makes perfect since why so many are spiritually blinded ? For without the Holy Spirit one can not comprehend the scriptures nor understand them for they are foolishness unto them for the natural man ( unsaved man ) cannot receive the things of God for they are foolishness unto him : that’s why you have approximately over 1 Billion Roman Catholics who are deceived by Thier traditions of men ,commandments of men and doctrines of devils / for they worship the Lord thy God in Vain not knowing the Truth of The Gospels? They honor the creature ( Satan ) more than the creator ( Christ )! For this reason many are led like Lambs to the slaughterhouse ( hell ) ! Thru a pagan tradition of purgatory many believe that some how if they fall short of the Glory of God they shall have Thier sins cleansed in firey aboud of purgatory ? But this is just another tactic of the devil to keep the souls confused of salvation/ Roman Catholics will not except the FreeGift offered once at the Cross , by Faith alone they repeat the unbloody sacraments of Jesus over and over upon Thier alters ? For the forgiveness of sins which was done once at the cross never to be repeated for the remissions of sins it was a one time sacrifice ( Hebrew 9 , Hebrews 10 KJV! Thier Fire they are under the curse / many die of diseases as The Lord reveals / he that eats and drinks unworthy: eateth and drinketh damnation unto himself! Rev 19;4 kJV is a warning from The Lord ; come out from among her my people that ye be not part of her sins that you receive not her plagues ( disease) for her sins have reach all the way into Heaven and The Lord God hath remembered her iniquities/ Roman Catholicism is the abomination of the earth mystery Babylonian the whore / apostate church of the earth who has many harlot daughter apostasy religious systems? Revelation 17 kJV

          1. Their not thier..

            Sorry, you are giving SO many examples of what you believe to be the truth, yet you repeatedly misspell a simple word.

            It invalidates what you are preaching on a small level. I assure you that the KJV Bible, should you be reading it as much as you claim, you would surely have noticed ‘their’ as opposed to ‘thier.’ And you call out others to be blind. I think this is a log in the eye, friend.

      5. Catholicism is not Christian. Us Christian’s in normal churches reject praying to a piece of wood called a rosary or the weird traditions and rules. We just believe in a relationship with You and God. You don’t have to go to church for that and you don’t have to go to a Catholic church for sure. But if you’re Catholic can you go to a different church watch out you’ll be ostracized. I know I have seen it firsthand from our aunt. Who tried to go to our church.

        1. I believe that 95% of the world churches today / The world council churches / WCC / and 501c3 churches have all sold out to the devils lies / following after the commandments of men , the Traditions of men , and the doctrines of devils / Satan has had over 6,000 years to build his kingdom on this earth to be worshipped and his greatest work is inside a building called a church today / I just follow what the Lord revealed ? When ever two or more are gathered in my name Iam in the midst of them ? Praise the Lord

      6. I agree with you. This image of a woman giving birth in Rev 12 with the 7 heads, 10 horns and 7 diadem with the dragon waiting to pounce, is nothing to do with Mary or the Catholic Church. The image is not of the Church waiting to give birth to our Lord….how could it be? Jesus had already given birth to the Church ( not the other way round!). Rather, the woman is Israel….just think it through, or even better pray for guidance.

    2. What is good to reflect on ? That Rome is deceived into following pagan practices and making the same mistakes as the jews did !! The Lord would send his prophets to rebuke the jews in those days !! Who is standing up rebuking Catholicism today ? Not hardly anyone !! Catholicism is like Goliath the giant : who will oneday Fall and be put to death ! By the Son of David …Jesus Christ !! Then those that were deceived by Catholicism will fall with her into eternal hell fire forever !!

    3. First of all, Mary’s comment was not a prayer, Jesus said if you have seen Me you have seen the Father, the Bible says, call no man Holy Father, as Rome would have you do. Blasphemy! The Bible also says do not confess your sins to no man or woman. That is why Jesus died on the cross, to take on all our sins, past, present and future, giving us direct communication with him, so confess your sins to Jesus who died the cross and rose on the third day, conquering death. Don’t let any man tell you what the Bible says, read it for yourself as the Bible teaches. Fear Not! and Peace be with you till the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords returns for His People

      1. Bill commented “The Bible also says do not confess your sins to no man or woman,” to which I ask, where? Where in the Bible is this written? Please give me book, chapter, and verse.

        Bill commented “Don’t let any man tell you what the Bible says, read it for yourself as the Bible teaches.”

        Amen, hence my question.

      2. Bill commented “The Bible also says do not confess your sins to no man or woman,” to which I ask, where? Where in the Bible is this written? Please give book, chapter, and verse.

        Bill commented “Don’t let any man tell you what the Bible says, read it for yourself as the Bible teaches.”

        Amen, hence my question.

        1. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is only one God, and there is only one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity – – the man is Jesus Christ

          1. That is true, Jesus is the one Mediator. However this verse does not in any way forbid or even address confessing to another person. Can you please tell me where in the Bible it says to not confess sins to no man or woman.

          2. The only thing that matters is whether or not you believe Jesus Christ as your savior personally I do

        2. Matthew 23:9 call no man Father upon the earth for ONE is ur Father, which is in heaven…u needed a verse to prove that u shud call no man on earth father…here it is…go read it for urself….

    1. Be not deceived the Lord will not be mocked !! For he hates them that bow down or serve another !! And he will not share his glory with no other !! Exodus 20 !!

    2. Church is the body of true believers who have been born again !! Not some building you walk into once a week for an hour or so ! My temple is not made with mans hands!! Saith The Lord ! So despite these elegant and extravagant places of worship on earth called , churches ! Where we are told to find God ? Be not deceived by the handy work of men ? The kingdom of God is within you when you become Born again !! The Vatican in all its glory and beauty is ALL IN VAIN BEFORE A HOLY GOD OF HEAVEN !! For he despises such riches and vain glory !! The Roman Catholic wealth is estimated in the trillions of monies $$)! Yet it will not give its vast resources to the poor / look at the starving African world !! They are constantly begging for help ? But you see little change in THIER conditions !! While Rome sits in wealth and Splender ? She shall suffer lose in the end / for Strong is the Lord thy God who judgeth her ( Catholicism ) universal church of the devil !!!

      1. Actually, for all its many faults, the Roman Church is probably the largest source of eleemosynary assistance on the planet.

      2. Ummm, I happen to know for a fact that the catholic church does to use it’s vast wealth to help not only africa but anyone in true need. I have even on occasion called on someone else’s behalf and the church was more then willing to not only assist they paid too. I am not catholic either. The only one judging the catholic church is you not god. I assure you jesus would be greatful for their work. I have never been denied assistance of any kind in 30 ish years of working with them.

  1. @Joe: “So what Jesus is rebuking is the idea that if you come from a holy family, you’re set.” It’s sad that you think that’s what is said. They (His half-siblings) came to rebuke Him (John 7:5; Mark 3:21). [And because Mary came with His brothers, maybe she was also about to rebuke Him. Although she could very well have been a mediator who doesn’t pick sides as mothers tend to do.] Anyways, don’t use Mary’s prophecy of herself being called blessed by all generations and Elizabeth calling her blessed as examples of Luke 11 not being a rebuke. That is obtuse. While it wasn’t necessarily a direct rebuke of her, it most certainly was against the coming Mary-worshipers. He didn’t show his family any special attention when they came for Him. Why should we give Mary special attention? He didn’t want to give the impression that His earthly mother should receive praise when He’s right there. Why should we pray to her when He’s right there? Shoot, He didn’t even call her ‘Mom’ or ‘Mother’. He called her ‘woman’. While it’s a given that she may very well be the most blessed woman to walk this earth, does that mean we should blaspheme our Lord? Mary would be devastated that she’s worshiped. Show her some respect while she’s at rest, and “hear the Word of God and obey it”.

    1. Six days later, Jesus took Peter, James, and John, the brother of James, up on a high mountain by themselves. 2 While they watched, Jesus’ appearance was changed; his face became bright like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. 3 Then Moses and Elijah[a] appeared to them, talking with Jesus.

      4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here. If you want, I will put up three tents here—one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”
      So they are in Heaven but yet Mary the Mother of God is 6 feet under resting and she was not taken up to Heaven

        1. Where does it say that in the Bible? She is most likely in the bosom of Abraham, but the does state for the dead in Christ will rise first, and we who are alive will be caught up with him (Jesus) in the air.

        2. Where does it say that in the Bible? She is most likely in the bosom of Abraham, but the Bible does state that, for the dead in Christ will rise first, and we who are alive will be caught up with him (Jesus) in the air.

          1. Mark 12:26-27: “have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the bush, how God spoke to him, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living. You are quite wrong.”

    2. In Greek O GYNE is used in the tragedies to address great queens & princesses. It isn’t as rude as the literal English translation I.

      And Catholics don’t worship Mary & the saints. DOULEA and LATRIA are two different things.

    3. We honor, we don’t worship. It is like us humans asking one parents to speak to our other parent. I know God is right there. But maybe we feel she knows the right words. I don’t understand why it’s so bad. It’s not a sin.

  2. Michael,

    There’s a lot to unpackage here, but I’ll do my best.

    (1) If Jesus is saying, in Luke 11, that Mary is not blessed, then He’s contradicting the Holy Spirit’s testimony through both Mary and Elizabeth in Luke 1. Obviously, that’s not possible. So clearly, something different is going on. So your theory that Jesus is rebuking her is off to a bad start.

    (2) The idea that Catholics worship Mary is one that I think you know is false. If not, let me be clear: we don’t worship Mary.

    (3) “Why should we give Mary special attention?” Mary says that all generations will honor her (Luke 1:48), while you say we should ignore her.

    We honor her because of her faith, and her obedience to Christ. We honor her because she’s the most blessed among all women, the New Eve in Christ’s Glorious Redemption. We honor her because she’s the Mother of God, and the Mother of all Christians. And we honor her because the earliest Christians honored her.

    There are plenty of other reasons, but why isn’t it good enough to simply say that Luke 1:48 says that all generations will call her Blessed? Who besides the Virgin Mary is promised a similar blessing of perpetual homage?

    (4) He didn’t want to give the impression that His earthly mother should receive praise when He’s right there. Not only is there literally nothing in the text supporting this, but the suggestion is gross. Is it wrong to say something nice about your neighbor? Or only wrong to say something nice about them if Jesus is there? Because either way, that’s upside-down Christianity.

    The idea that Jesus couldn’t stand to be around one person praising another one, if He wasn’t the center of attention, runs contrary to even basic knowledge of Christ, and His utter humility. Think about what you’re suggesting. You recklessly accuse Catholics of blasphemy, yet you’re the one suggesting evil of our Lord.

    (5) Finally, when Jesus calls Mary “Woman,” He’s not being cold. In the context, He’s equating her with Eve, whose name before the Fall was Woman (see Genesis 2:23; she isn’t named “Eve” until Genesis 3:20, after the Fall).

    Irenaeus, in Against Heresies (from 180 A.D.), compared the two Women:

    “For just as the former was led astray by the word of an angel, so that she fled from God when she had transgressed His word; so did the latter, by an angelic communication, receive the glad tidings that she should sustain (portaret) God, being obedient to His word. And if the former did disobey God, yet the latter was persuaded to be obedient to God, in order that the Virgin Mary might become the patroness (advocata) of the virgin Eve. And thus, as the human race fell into bondage to death by means of a virgin, so is it rescued by a virgin; virginal disobedience having been balanced in the opposite scale by virginal obedience. For in the same way the sin of the first created man (protoplasti) receives amendment by the correction of the First-begotten, and the coming of the serpent is conquered by the harmlessness of the dove, those bonds being unloosed by which we had been fast bound to death.”

    Now, if you’re being consistent, you’ll now have to claim that the very earliest followers of the Apostles were Mary-worshipers. But these same men were the ones who coin the term Trinity, bring us the Bible, and so forth. Are you really going to stick to your guns that they know less about the Gospel than you, and that they’re heretics? Or can you concede that perhaps it’s you who is misunderstanding the situation?

    God bless,

    Joe

    1. 1) We all have to know our Gods ways and policies. God spoke to Mary through Gabriel before her marriage, after her marriage God didn’t spoke to Mary but to Joseph bcz now she is a wife of Joseph (Christ is the head of man, man is the head of woman, God always consider authority)
      2) Mary want Jesus to help the marriage house in Cana: Even though, it was not Jesus time and hour though he did the miracle against the will of his mighty father to observe the commandment 5 “Honour your father and mother”.
      3)Sure Mary is blessed and she knew that it was wrong that she intervened in her son Jesus mission and it is against her mighty Fathers will so from that movement she keept herself silent and didn’t place any request to her son till his death.
      4) Jesus handover his mother to John at the cross because, to observe the commandment 5 “Honour your father and mother”, and John was the only one near the cross. All apostles and his brothers and sisters are scared and run away.
      5) Why Apostles didn’t mentioned anything about Joseph or Mary bcz, salvation is only through Jesus and not through anyone. They knew clearly that if they specify more about Mary and Joseph people in this generation will be diverted from Jesus. See, on their minute references about Mary people are stumbled.
      6) Apostles didn’t mention anything about Whether Jesus met his mother after his resurrection or not bcz of the same reason in 5
      7) Our God is a God of living ones and so he will listen to our prayers and so we have to pray for each other, even apostles request prayers for them. Why they didn’t intercede to Abraham, Moses, Elijah , John the Baptist or to Mother Mary (if she is assented or assumed to heaven in their life time).
      8) Mary was with John, before his death, he wrote many revelations, why he didn’t mention anything about Mary? Her death or taken to heaven? The woman with 12 stars is Jerusalem and Gods son was born in Jerusalem and Jerusalem was mentioned as “She”.
      9) All apostle wrote book in Holy spirit why they didn’t mentioned anything about her death or taken to heaven? Why Holy Spirit didn’t reveal it to them?
      10) Why we follow something not in the bible if we are truly following bible?
      11) Every congregation have their own version of bible, then why Catholic don’t incorporate their belief -Mary death or taken to heaven in to their version of Bible?
      12) Satan wants to divert people from Jesus, so he takes several forms in this world, even the form of Holy ones. In the end times he even takes the form of Jesus and presents himself to us, but the true Jesus will appear in clouds with his holy ones that Satan can’t do. Here we need spiritual Wisdom.
      My true belief in bible is that, if God want to glorify or want everyone to intercede to Mary, our God would have revealed it to all apostles.
      Jesus is the mediator between father and us who intercede for us in heaven and the helper given for us is Holy Spirit in all our need in this world
      Please feel to share your views

    2. The earliest APOSTLES were Mary worshippers???
      Yoir reading into the text your own religious teaditions and theology

      1. Be not deceived the Lord will not be mocked !! For he hates them that bow down or serve another !! And he will not share his glory with no other !! Exodus 20 !!

    3. Have you read in the Holy word of God ? THIER is But ONE MEDIATOR , in heaven and on earth , the man christ jesus !! THIER is not two mediators ? Mary the medatrix ? Or three ? The PREIST ? Roman Catholics try and cover all the bases ! Hoping that by doing so much traditions , they are bound to get atleast one right ? But this is bad idea ! To go against the Lord and His Holy scriptures can never be good ! THIER is so much deception in Roman Catholicism it’s hard to imagine how so many get caught up in all its lies !! And deceptions ! Heresy !

    4. Joe , unless you come to acknowledge of the truth and turn from man and it’s handed down traditions and canons ? You will only become more confused by reading into THIER heretical belief system of demons /. Explain one thing to me Joe ? Just about everyone in the modern world has a handheld phone or computer ? At THIER disposal ! So why are so many still deceived by the devil / aka LUCIFER , ? Who we are told in scriptures comes as an angel of Light ? That means he can come as one sent by The One True God Lord of Heaven ! He is a pretender and mascaraed as one with supreme authority !! In other words he wishes to be worshipped ! Like The Lord God !! And he most certainly is thru false religious systems world wide ! I challenge your intellect Joe ? Go to the YOUTUBE CHANNEL ! Broadcast yourself ? For the past few years something very strange and wicked has unfolded in the Vatican ! On the YouTube singing in Latin at the Christmas Mass / a singer Sins in Latin which is interpreted in English as ” christ the Son of LUCIFER ” !!!! He sings this phrase over and over in th Mass !! At Christmas mass ! Now with that in mind ! How can your canons and popes try and explain that away and give evidence in the Living Holy Word of God ….that LUCIFER / aka the devil is the Fathef of jesus ? Or jesus is the Son of LUCIFER ? TURN OR BURN my friend !! Is your only choice !! 1.4 Billion are going down with Lucifer into Hell fire / tormented day and night forever ….for they follow her permiscius ways ? Like a lambs to the slaughter house !

    5. Why not pray to Mosses or David? The fact of the matter we do not because Christ hung on the cross not Mary.We Jesus died and the walls crumbled in the Church this represented that you no longer have to pray to anyone else .You can now go straight to God without Priest,or any man of the cloth.So why in the world would you bow and praise Mary The Word is God and God is The Word.When you you start teaching things that do not exist in the Word you are asking for trouble.Think about this.If Jesus wanted us to pray with or to Mary why did he not mention this to anyone?Jesus taught everything else he wanted us to do.It is just common sense.

    6. Sorry, Eve and Mary we’re two different people, read the Bible, don’t be disillusioned, by someone’s commentary, the Bible states that God chose Mary to be the vessel by which the Savior of the World would be born, not to be prayed or to be revered as equal to Jesus, and sometimes even worshiped and exalted above Jesus, the Son of God who now sits at the right hand of God the Father, not Mary, for she can not save your soul, Jesus said, “ I am the Way the Truth and the Life and that no man (or woman) cometh unto the Father but by Me “ Jesus loves you and died for you, that you might have eternal life, no one else could have taken his place on the cross.

      1. Luke 11:27-28 Jesus did not say much about His mother in the scriptures. If one goes to all the places where He and His mother interact, or Mary makes a statement about Jesus, or Jesus makes a statement about Mary, it is obvious she reacts to Him as a mother would and Jesus is very careful not to place her above Believers who hear the word of God and keep it. He called them blessed and of course this includes His mother, since she also heard and kept God’s word. The Bible makes it clear that The Word is Jesus, Himself. Mary knew she was His mother, but she also knew that He was her God. This is made clear in scripture before she was with child – her encounter with the Holy Spirit. So, don’t make Mary any more blessed than yourself if you are a true Believer. Jesus alone is our Savior, Lord, God. He alone deserves our praise, He alone hears our prayers. He alone is first in our lives. Amen?

    7. Sorry, Eve and Mary we’re two different people, read the Bible, don’t be disillusioned by somebody’s commentary, God chose Mary to be the vessel by which the Savior of the World would be born. Not to be prayed to and revered as an equal to Jesus, and sometimes even worshiped and exalted above Jesus. Jesus loves you and died for your sins past, present and future, that you might have eternal life. Mary cannot save your soul, Jesus said, “I am the Way the Truth and the Life and no man (or woman) comes unto to the Father but by Me” the truth will set you free.

    8. Ye do err from the scriptures nor knowing the power of God !!! I can see you have been bewixedd/ into following after another gospel ? According to the gospel of paul you are under a curse : meaning you are on the path to damnation our as we should reveal the road to Hell ; yet Iam sure you would be able to explain away this thru your highly educated mind of men ; honoring men more than ye honor the Lord ; but never the less you surly deceived by the doctrines of devils in what you do and teach ; bringing even more souls into this place of fire ? Those that go about deceiving shall be deceived? Saith The Lord : false Religions exsposed.com is a good place to start to save your soul ? Jesus is savior? Scroll down to Roman Catholicism? Feast your eyes on her countless lies and blasphemes/ lest ye too be deceived and taken in ?

  3. @Joe: In response to your five statements:
    1) Wrong. I never said he was rebuking her. I said it was a possibility since she showed up with His half-siblings.
    2) Wrong. Offering prayers to the unseen is worship. Period! OK, look at this: A) If Mary is being offered prayer in China at the same time as she’s being offered prayer in the US, then how could she hear it? Hearing multiple prayers at once is what makes God, God. B) The Torah says that we shouldn’t contact the dead. Yet you say, “The saints are living.” But what about someone deceased being offered up prayers who isn’t yet declared ‘blessed’? Since you don’t even have to officially be declared ‘venerable’ for veneration anymore (‘Veneration for a Venerable’ on ewtn website), do you actually think nobody has ever offered up a prayer to someone in hell? The practice itself puts you in a position to sin by contacting the dead. And that’s from a Catholic-reasoning perspective. Remember, God is NOT the author of confusion.
    3) Wrong. I never said that we should ignore her. Did I not say, “she may very well be the most blessed woman to walk this earth”? [On a side note, read the last part of answer 2.]
    4) Wrong. Why would she praise His mother when He is right there? [Again, on a side note, read the last part of answer 2.]
    5) I never said that He was being cold. You said that. On your other statements of comment five: That is pointless, unfounded, circle-talking. [Really, seriously, read the last part of answer 2. Even from a Catholic perspective, how could one possibly say that it isn’t an opportunity for sin?]

  4. Michael,

    (1) So are you saying it’s a possibility or not? You seem to say “no” and then “maybe yes.”

    (2) You’re making an incredibly broad accusation — that almost every Christian in history was a pagan without even knowing it. How are you this comfortable in your assertions?

    A) Hearing multiple prayers at once is what makes God, God. This is what I mean by assertions. You just claim this: no Scriptural support, no logical reasoning, nothing. And it doesn’t even make sense. By that standard, if you hear two prayers while on an international conference call, you’re God. That’s crazy.

    B) If you’re right, why didn’t the early Christians think that the Torah prohibited praying to Saints? Isn’t it possible that “necromancy” isn’t the same thing as praying (at all)? Likewise, if you laid out a “forerunners in the faith” list (a la Hebrews 11), and included someone who turned out to be in Hell, would you be sinning, by your own logic?

    (3) You’re skipping the part about honoring her. I’m saying it’s Scriptural to do so.

    (4) “Wrong. Why would she praise His mother when He is right there? ” I find this logic incredibly contorted. Jesus lived an earthly life for roughly 33 years. Is it honestly your position that no one could praise anyone else for anything around Jesus, because it was somehow a sin? If your daughter took her first steps, but Jesus was there, you couldn’t clap for her? I again don’t see any logical or Scriptural support for this belief.

    (5) Right, I’m saying it would be cold to refer to One’s Mother in a purely impersonal way. But you’re the one claiming that Jesus actually did that… a point you neglected to address.

    Then we get to your last comment: “On your other statements of comment five: That is pointless, unfounded, circle-talking.” Why? How? Give me Scripture, logic, something.

  5. Here’s the heart of the matter. I’m a sinner, and misunderstand things in the Gospel (despite my best intentions) much more frequently than I’d like to admit. But as a Catholic, I’m also in a blessed position. I can humbly concede that there are plenty of areas that I don’t understand, and I drink deeply from the waters of those who went before me. I learn new stuff about the faith constantly from my spiritual betters, and feed off of two thousand years of spiritual insights from the greatest Christians to ever walk this planet. But (and this is just how it seems to me) you don’t seem to really care what the last two thousand years of Christians had to say, or what the earliest disciples of the Apostles had to say. You’ve found a minuscule sliver of Christians, unknown to most of the world, non-existent throughout nearly all of Christian history, and you seem to have just concluded that they, and you, are right … about everything. On every issue you comment on, you’re incredibly confident you’re right, but I can’t figure out why.

    Here, for example, you’ve made the radical claim that Catholics are Mary worshipers, and persist even after being corrected. As I said, by this logic, you’d have to say that the earliest Christians worshiped Mary, a point you waved it away by saying it was “pointless, unfounded, circle-talking.” You didn’t bother even addressing the actual argument, or showing why it was wrong.

    So let me try again: is it your position that the early Christians were (unbeknownst to even themselves) idolaters? And that virtually every Christian since then has been, too? Or is it okay when the early Church does it, but not the Church today?

    Perhaps more fundamentally, let’s say that a Buddhist wanted to become Christian, and wanted to know what the appropriate posture to take towards the Mother of God would be — or any other doctrinal issue. How could he be expected to know that you’re the one with true Christianity, while most everyone else is really pagan?

    How would our Buddhist friend know that Michael Addison knows more about the Gospel than Irenaeus or Augustine or Benedict? How, for that matter, do you know this?

    God bless,

    Joe

    1. Joe I see in your web picture that your wearing the famous PREIST dog collar ? Does this give you more godly insight on spiritual matters as the vicar of Christ pope would have ? Not hardly ! But it does show outwardly that your still searching for truth ! Ave have not found it ! Only the truth will make us free !! Saith the Lord !! I suggest you keep asking. , seeking , knocking for it !! Till it becomes transparent !! And flee from Roman or orthodoxy Catholicism !! Revelation 18;4 KJV

    2. The only authority any of us have to go on is only HOLY SCRIPTURES !!! The KJV Bible !! Jesus warned of the leaven of the pharasee !! If you would do some research in history : I believe you will find out that Rome was a pagan cultures in the first century of Christ ! And they worshiped many deities ! In the 3rd century along comes ST AUGUSTINE ? Who begin to weave a web of mixing pagan practices and venerations into a Christian gospel ; and as each century passed more and more rituals and ceremonies would be introduced . You call yourself a catholic , and believed your saved , but you and 1.4 billion Catholics are deceived by the devil And His Lies ! They don’t read THIER bibles , and put THIER soul in the hands of a lost soul PREIST ! Let no man deceive you by any means saith the Lord …..for many shall be deceived ! Read what the catholic writings teach ( honor the venerable day of the Sun on SUNDAY )! they were SUN worshippers ancient nimrod Babylonian traditions handed down from the powers of darkness ! Why do you see a huge round stain glass windows on almost every Catholic Church in the world ? Are round by coincidence ? Facing the east ? That SUNLIGHT might shine thru into the alter and the Eucharist !! Presented by the priest ! Hebrews 10 destroys the Eucharist ! For he hath sacrificed All once and for all st the cross !! A one time sacrifice never to be repeated again for remissions of Sins !! I would study scriptures deeper and follow revelation 18;4 and come out from smoking her my people !!! Flee from this church full of heresies That drag so many into Hell !!

      1. So, your interpretation & understanding of Scripture is the right one? Are you saying that you know better than everyone else over the past 2000-odd (some very odd indeed) years of Christian history? On what basis do you make that claim?

    3. Yeah joe you can keep preaching the Devils Lies and deceptions but according to the word of the Living God : YOU WILL RECEIVE A GREATER DAMNATION !! THATS RIGHT JOE BECAUSE YOU LED SO MANY INTO THE HELL !!! THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDES IN YOU !!!! HE WILL CAST YOU INTO A HOTTER AND MORE SUFFERINGS OF TORMENT BECAUSE THE WAY OF TRUTH WAS EVIL SPOKEN OF BY YOU AND AND OTHER LOST SOULS !!! Who followed the Devils lies in the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH !!! Fleee while your still able !!!

  6. @Joe: I have been logical. You’re the one talking in circles, grabbing doctrine out of thin air just because some blasphemer claimed a distorted ‘Apostolic Succession’. I don’t respond to the issues, am not logical, don’t use Scripture? Wow! Look who’s talking! Borderline nothing at all from the RCC is Scriptural, logical, etc. Oh, and almost nobody has disagreed with Catholics? Then why has she murdered MILLIONS? “Get out of her.”

    1. AMen Michael..you are correct..Mary IS worshiped in the Catholic church and adoration- adoring who? AND when one needs a doctor , do they call THE DOCTOR?(Jesus) or his wife? (Mary)? Circle thought and talk is what Catholics Do—it is no wonder that we don’t hear of Joseph (earthly dad of Jesus )thru Jesus’ministry–or talk about CONFUSION..every time Father would be mentioned, the Catholic church would do like they have with Mary–now Claiming that SHE herself is of a virgin birth(born without sin) (which would mean her PARENTS would have to had been sinless…AND Mary’s BIRTH would have been in the Bible as supernatural- and recorded as such…but neither is scriptural..but the concoction of mere men and traditions of a church …

      Get out of her is truly the “choice” these Catholics (as well as with any “church” that does not believe in JESUS as Lord and Savior and ACCEPT what he did for us –sinners–)need to do!)

  7. Michael,

    First off, she didn’t murder million. That’s an absurd black legend. Second, read over what you’ve written, but do it from this perspective: try and put yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn’t already agree with you. Are you giving them any reason to change their minds?

    God bless,

    Joe

    1. To say that murdering innocent people is a black legend only proves how elementary you are at study of history ? One only has to go back so far in history ; than to realize that it was popes that were ordering these slaying and inquisitions ! To sweep across the lands and destroy all heretics and those that were anathema !! One only has to go back before the Vatican ll to see that a Protestant was anathematized for THIER unbelief in following Roman Catholicism !! I have witnessed on the streets and families to so many Roman Catholics deceived by this so – called church : and they would get so angry and upset : the spirit of the antichrist would rise up in them ! To defend THIER doctrines of lies if they could have they would have burned me too at the stake ! Catholicism will face the ultimate defeat at the SECOUND coming of Christ !! She shall be utterly burned with fire , for strong is the Lord thy God that judgeth Her !! For she says in her heart , Iam no widow , and I shall see no sorrow ? But in one hour she shall be burned with fire ! Give her a doubles portion of Fire and a double portion of sorrow !! For the SAINTS CRY OUT ( mytared saints ) HOW LONG OH LORD SHALL IT BE THAT YOU AVENGE OUR BLOOD THAT SHED FOR THEE !! You my friend are onboard with a run away train !! Headed for total disaster !! Unless you jump to safety before the point of no return ! You shall surly parish in the flames along with all who follow this heretic work based salvation of Sacrements into Hell ! For denying the Free gift of Faith alone in Christ alone for His Grace alone ! Romans 11;6. KJV no catholic on earth who follows works ( SACREMENTS ) can be saved !! For them trusting in these SACREMENTS will cause them to die in THIER Sins ! By THIER works they deny me saith the Lord !

  8. Hi Joe,

    Just going to paste​ one of​ your replies​. Perhaps read it out loud and think about?

    “A) Hearing multiple prayers at once is what makes God, God. This is what I mean by assertions. You just claim this: no Scriptural support, no logical reasoning, nothing. And it doesn’t even make sense. By that standard, if you hear two prayers while on an international conference call, you’re God. That’s crazy.”

    I agree God hears all prayers. But the RCC​ states​​ ​MOTHER MARY – OUR POWERFUL INTERCESSOR IN HEAVEN​, along with other titles. ​(1 Timothy 2:5, the only Mediator between God and us is Jesus.​)​

    ​So logically she somehow is “Must be Deified as a god/dess, Mary omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient​.​ There is no mention She sits on the Left Hand Side of GOD our Father, however she just happens to take over God’s/Jesus’/Holy Spirit Role?​ I personally believe God Created everything, and He sent Himself via Mary to walk with us. So, why does God need her to take over His role?​ I think it’s time to be honest, let the Bible speak for it’s self apposed to tradition.

    Jeremiah was directed by God to speak out the Lord’s disapproval of Israel’s worship of the “Queen of Heaven” ( 7:18 ; 44:17-19 ). This female astral deity was particularly worshiped by the women in Judah and Egypt during the time of Jeremiah.​

    1. Alan says:
      February 23, 2016 at 4:54 am
      Hi Joe,

      Hi, Alan. De Maria here. Let me take your note from the end, first. You said:

      I think it’s time to be honest, let the Bible speak for it’s self apposed to tradition.

      Ok. Let’s see what the Bible says:

      2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

      So, you say to listen to the Bible and deny tradition. But the Bible says to listen to BOTH.

      Here’s another:

      Hebrews 13:7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

      You say to ignore the Church, but the Bible says to obey the Church.

      I agree God hears all prayers. But the RCC​ states​​ ​MOTHER MARY – OUR POWERFUL INTERCESSOR IN HEAVEN​, along with other titles. ​(1 Timothy 2:5, the only Mediator between God and us is Jesus.​)​

      Read 1 Timothy 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

      Notice that we are called to “make intercessions”. What does Jesus do “as Mediator”?

      Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

      Perhaps you weren’t aware that Mediators make intercessions. Therefore, Scripture calls us all to become mediators because Scripture calls us all to make intercessions.

      And if you reject Scripture’s call, then you are disobeying the Word of God.

      So logically she somehow is “Must be Deified as a god/dess, ….So, why does God need her to take over His role?​

      Then you must be deified as god. Have your children, your brothers or your friends ever asked you to pray for them? Did you listen to their prayers?

      You are totally confused by the Protestants. This is a new Dispensation. Jesus Christ gave us the example on the Mountain when He conversed with Moses and Elijah. We now walk with the Saints. We can ask them to pray for us. Most especially, His Mother.

      Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

      Jeremiah was directed by God to speak out the Lord’s disapproval of Israel’s worship of the “Queen of Heaven” ( 7:18 ; 44:17-19 ). This female astral deity was particularly worshiped by the women in Judah and Egypt during the time of Jeremiah.​

      Exactly! That woman was not Mary! That is why God was displeased that any man should honor a woman and give the Title which was due to His Mother. Get a clue! It is Mary who is crowned in heaven! Why else would Scripture depict a Woman being crowned in heaven if Scripture didn’t want you to understand that there is a Queen of Heaven?!!!

      Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

      1. Hello De Maria in response,

        This is how we learn to grow and Love our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ our Savior.

        We need to read this if not all of 1 Timothy 2. Instructions on Worship in full context, however lets look at 1-7: I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time. 7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—and a true and faithful teacher of the Gentiles.

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        “You are totally confused by the Protestants. This is a new Dispensation. Jesus Christ gave us the example on the Mountain when He conversed with Moses and Elijah. We now walk with the Saints. We can ask them to pray for us. Most especially, His Mother.”

        My response:
        This is from the Catholic Catechism — list popes have claimed to be God or equal to God. They are part of the RCC Dispensation? I hope this is self explanatory.

        1. Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote: “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c. 3)

        2. The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: “Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth.” (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)

        3. Pope Nicholas said of himself: “I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do… wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods. Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ.” (Decret. par. Distinct 96 ch. 7 edit. Lugo 1661)

        4. The RC New York catechism states: “The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth… by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth.”

        5. The title “Lord God the Pope” – these words appeared in the Canon Law of Rome. “To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical.” (The Gloss extravagances of Pope John XXII Cum. Inter, tit XIV Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685). Father A. Pereira acknowledged: “It is quite certain that Popes have never disapproved or rejected this title “Lord God the Pope” for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome by Gregory XIII.”

        6. Pope Nicholas I declared that “the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man.” (Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para)

        7. Speaking [in] the name of the Pope (a rhetorical device) Cardinal Manning said: “I acknowledge no civil superior, I am the subject of no prince, and I claim more than this, I claim to be the supreme judge on earth and director of the consciences of men, I am the last supreme judge of what is right and wrong.” (Sermon in the Pro Cathedral, Kensington, Tablet Oct 9, 1864)

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        Revelation is the absolute toughest to dive into. It encompasses a summary of much from the OT, Gospels, the unfolding of events.

        Revelation 12:6

        AND there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
        2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
        3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
        4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
        5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
        6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

        This is Exactly not Queen of Heaven/Mary.

        1. Sorry, I didn’t edit out the actual Revelation 12:1-6 as above, getting a little long winded on limited time for positive discussion.

          The book of Revelation contains a passage in which St. John sees a “great sign in the sky”. He wrote:

          A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

          The ancient “goddess of 10,000 names” may well be called, Our Lady of the Nations. … Jesuits Black Virgin Queen, Sophia, Mary Magdalen, to Gnostics is Isis the female equal to God, in other words, is Mary, uniting and preparing the way for her “jesus” birthing in the Son of Perdition. She has usurped and is as described in Revelation 12:1-3 and 4a
          The Marian apparitions’ plan to unite all religions — Mary — The Queen of All! (Quote: “I am Mary, the Queen of Heaven and the Queen of Angels.”)
          The Prophet Isaiah foresaw a woman who is called “The Lady of Kingdoms” (Read ALL Isaiah 47). Isaiah predicted that her true identity would remain concealed until the very end. With all the prophecies now lining up, the last snippet of Revelation is unfolding. Also See Nahum 3:3-4.
          Revelation 12:4b …the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. = Just before Jesus was born, Satan through the agency of the Roman Empire (Herod & apostate Jews), prepared to destroy Him

          Revelation 12:5 …And she brought forth a man child… = Birth of Jesus Christ

          Revelation 12:5 …her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. = Ascension of Jesus Christ

          Revelation 12:6 …And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. = God’s faithful people, His church protected during a 1,260 year period when a religious and political power based in Rome would persecute God’s true followers, the Bible would remain in a state of obscurity and God’s church would find refuge in seclusion and hiding. The Dark Ages qualifies for this period of time, beginning in 538AD and ending in 1798AD. (pope meekly stepping to the throne of Caesar, the Vicar of Christ ((“substitute for Christ.”)) took up the sceptre to which the emperors and kings of Europe were to bow in reverence through so many ages, from sentiments of respect for the dignity of his office and because he was the only mediator whom they recognized in their almost interminable wars.

          Revelation 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; plus more warnings?

          1. Alan says:
            February 24, 2016 at 12:33 am
            Sorry, I didn’t edit out the actual Revelation 12:1-6 as above, getting a little long winded on limited time for positive discussion.

            No problem.

            The book of Revelation contains a passage in which St. John sees a “great sign in the sky”. He wrote:

            A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.

            The ancient “goddess of 10,000 names” may well be called, Our Lady of the Nations. … Jesuits Black Virgin Queen, Sophia, Mary Magdalen, to Gnostics is Isis the female equal to God,….

            That is just your imagination working overtime. Mary is the Queen of Heaven. She is the Mother of Jesus Christ, the King of Heaven.

            Revelation 12:5 …And she brought forth a man child… = Birth of Jesus Christ

            Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ.

            Revelation 12:5 …her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. = Ascension of Jesus Christ

            Jesus Christ is the King of Heaven.

            Revelation 12:6 …And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

            Mary fled into Egypt when the Angel warned St. Joseph that Herod wanted to kill the Holy Child. They remained there for approximately three and a half years. Then the Angel Gabriel called them back home.

            = God’s faithful people, His church protected during a 1,260 year period ….

            You’re making that all up. None of that is in Scripture.

            Revelation 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; plus more warnings?

            Yeah. God called the Jews out of Jerusalem and into the Catholic Church. Jerusalem has 7 mountains. Jerusalem is the Great City where our Lord was killed. Jerusalem is the harlot.

            Who is that woman, Babylon?

          2. I think that’s referring to Israel and the 12 tribes not mother Mary. I think its fairly clear rev 17 is speaking about the catholic church as the mother of prostitutes. Prostitutes being all the misled sects of self will, money hungry, prosperity preaching churches we have today. Tithing was something done only in old Testament by the tribe of Levi as sort of a federal tax. To me it is the first sign of a prostitute church.

        2. Alan says:
          February 24, 2016 at 12:24 am
          Hello De Maria in response,

          This is how we learn to grow and Love our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ our Savior.

          Actually, Scripture instructs you to go to the Church in order to learn the Will of God. The Church is the instrument which God established in order that you learn what God commands:

          Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

          We are forced to do this, because you refuse to listen to Scripture and submit to the Teaching of Christ’s Church.

          We need to read this if not all of 1 Timothy 2.

          Ok.

          Instructions on Worship in full context, however lets look at 1-7: I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time. 7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—and a true and faithful teacher of the Gentiles.

          Again, we are instructed to make intercession. Mediators make intercession. Therefore, we are instructed to be mediators. We are also instructed to follow Christ’s example. Christ is a Mediator. Therefore, we are instructed to be mediators.

          ============

          “You are totally confused by the Protestants. This is a new Dispensation. Jesus Christ gave us the example on the Mountain when He conversed with Moses and Elijah. We now walk with the Saints. We can ask them to pray for us. Most especially, His Mother.”

          My response:
          This is from the Catholic Catechism — list popes have claimed to be God or equal to God.

          Well, now you’re just lying. Because the Catholic Catechism does not say that any Pope claimed to be God. What it does say is that God speaks through His Popes. And that can be proven from Scripture:

          2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

          Do you see what that says, Alan? The Church is Christ’s ambassador. The Church prays for you in Christ’s stead. Why do you and the Protestants deny this Biblical Truth?

          They are part of the RCC Dispensation? I hope this is self explanatory.

          1.Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote: “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c. 3)….7.Speaking [in] the name of the Pope (a rhetorical device) Cardinal Manning said: “I acknowledge no civil superior, I am the subject of no prince, and I claim more than this, I claim to be the supreme judge on earth and director of the consciences of men, I am the last supreme judge of what is right and wrong.” (Sermon in the Pro Cathedral, Kensington, Tablet Oct 9, 1864)

          Amen! Have you ever read in Scripture what the first Pope, St. Peter, said to Ananias before he died? Pay attention.

          Acts 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

          3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

          Do you get it? When Ananias lied to St. Peter, he lied to the Holy Ghost. When Ananias lied to St. Peter, he lied to God.

          ==============

          Revelation is the absolute toughest to dive into. It encompasses a summary of much from the OT, Gospels, the unfolding of events.

          Protestants have no idea how to even begin to understand the book of Revelation. You have no frame of reference since you deny Sacred Tradition and especially the Mass.

          Revelation 12:6

          You mean Rev 12:1 and it is very important that the verse begins with the word, AND. Because the idea begins in the previous Chapter. Let me show you:

          Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

          Notice that this verse is about the Ark of the Covenant. Did you know that Mary is the New Ark of the Covenant. When you combine these two verses, you see why. Both Mary and the Ark contained the Word of God.

          AND there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

          The New Ark of the Covenant. And she is now crowned Queen of Heaven. Because the Mother of a King, is a Queen.

          This is Exactly not Queen of Heaven/Mary.

          You’re in denial. She is the Queen of Heaven. She is the mother of the King, Jesus Christ.

        3. ALAN you speak from the doctrines of men ; the commandments of men ; and the doctrines of devil …..for in Vain do you worship me ! Saith The Lord …if you put more emphasis on the Holy word of God ? Instead of these popes you might begin to come to Light ….you made be made free in Christ …..you may get saved !!! You may become born -again !! But that is your choice .. your deceived heretical church of the devil will bring countless souls down with her !! And all who speak out against this false work based salvation hierarchy / will be deemed heretic and anathema ( damned to Hell ) according to THIER plans of salvation thru Sacrements and prayers to the dead ! Awaken from thy slumber / for thy layeth in a burning house on fire !! Unless thou remove thyself from danger thou shalt surly parish In the flames of Catholicism !!!

        4. Great rebuttal / against the Roman Catholic Church / blindguides led the blind and they both shall fall into the Ditch ( HELL) !! 1.4Billion are I dire straights. Of losing THIER eternal soul in Hell Fire by following after the Devils Lies of deceptions / rev -18:4 come out from among her my people And be YE not part of her Sins that YE receive not her plaques for HER SINS have reached all the way unto haven and God hath remembered them !!!!

      2. Necromancy is an abomination before the Lord ( prayers to dead ) those who are deceased !! It’s witchcraft by heathens to conjure up the dead !! The druids practiced such wickedness ! Before battle they conjure up prayers to THIER dead ancestors to help fight in battle / surly the demons would hear these pleads and offer assistance !! THIER fore giving them solid ground for such idolatry ! This practice was passed on Thru centuries : Rome was infested with gods and goddeses to be worshipped as so the Greeks !! They would call upon these gods and goddesses for everyday life events !! In food ; finance ;seeking romance / marriage / life or death ? It’s no wonder that Catholicism picked up these pagan practices and mixed them with Christianity in the 2cd and 3 rd centuries !! If a Roman Catholic would take the time to read THIER KJV bibles and ask the Lord to open blinded eyes by the power of the Holy Spirit ? THIER would not be a 1.4 billion Catholics on THIER way into eternal damnation ( Hell ) not the Lie of purgatory !! In the purgatory lie you can possible get out !! In the Holy bible Hell you don’t get out !! You burn !! Until cast into the lake of Fire after the great white throne judgement seat !! After the millennium : revelation 17 and 18 chapters are clear on who Babylon is ( Roman Catholicism ) she holds up a golden cup full of abomination And filthiness of her formication !! She the whore sits on 7 hills ( mountains ). Parades about in scarlet and purple ( clearly the dress of cardinals and bihops ) rev 18:4 says by the Lord :come out from Among her my people that YE be not part of her sins!! That you receive not her plaques !! Call no man Father / for THIER is but ONE FATHER ; which is in heaven !!

  9. Woe, it is simple. Worship only GOD, the one and only true God. Worship Him in spirit and in truth. Pray only to one and only true God. If you pray and worship any other god, it is an idolatry and will condemn you to hell. Unless you repent and worship one True GOD. 1st commandment , “love God above all”. Sadly many Christians are not Christians, they know Christ but they don’t know His words, doesn’t even know the bible, spiritually dead, couldn’t understand the words of God.

    1. Filipina,

      This post is four and a half years old, so I’m not going to spend a lot of time responding. But short answer: yes, we should worship only God. But praying to Mary isn’t the same as worshipping her, and you shouldn’t be so quick to judge your fellow Christians. It might be that the problem is that you just don’t understand what we believe or why.

      1. What I do understand is they 1.4 billion Roman Catholics and orthodox are being led astray by idol worship !! Which the Lord hates !! You being ignorant of clear scriptures does not grant you the name as a Christian ? If you are deceived by false doctrine ; which you are beyond a shadow of a doubt ! Then you cannot possibly be saved or born again ? If you were saved or born again by Christ your eyes would be open to his truth ! And therefore you would hear and believe the truth ! But you do not hear nor believe !! THIER fore you stand condemned already !! Not my words but the words of Christ ! I urge you to seek after knowledge and let the spirit quite you ! If you remain a catholic you will die in your sins!! This is a fact !!!

      2. You joe are not saved ? THIER for you are not a Christiam ? There fore you are deceived into following after the Devils lies : he leds you like. A lamb to the slaughter house ( Hell ) you believe the Lie of the RCC a. Place called purgatory that does not exist in the Holy Bible !! You will not be cleansed by fire as so many who follow this pagan Lie of Satan !! As if they get a secound chance on THIER eternal destination !! No after death comes judgement !! No secound chance are given !! Rome is FULL OF SATAN LIES !!! A little leaven , Lesvens the whole Lump ( words of jesus to the Pharisee ). Do you know what this means( JOE ) one drop of poison / poisons the whole gallon !!! That means that the countless lies of heresy found in the RCC / SACREMENTS /prayers to the Desd / purgatory !list goes on and on !! It only takes one to destroy all that this satanic organization builds it foundation on top of !! Be not deceived joe countless of souls are being Led into Hell daily !! By this wicked work based salvation church of the devil !! The Lord warns them to Flee from it or perish with her !!? The day is vastly approaching for THIER judgement lingers not !!damnation is upon every person who wears the RCC banner they will be cast into Hell by THIER works they deny me saith The Lord !!

    2. Modelism / sabellanism / oneness Pentecostalism define : the One True God ? Vs the trinity ? They deny the triniterian aspect of God ! They say that God is LORD Jehovah in the old TESTEMENT ; Jesus is God Jehovah manifested in the flesh : and when jesus ascension become God thee Holy Spirit / God puts on three different type hats in all the acasion ? Buy trinity believe the Godhead is made up of three distinct persons operating in the One God ! Jesus is not the God son ? He is the Son of God !! Who speaks to His Father in Heaven ! Jesus the Son of God seats at the Fathers right hand ! Oneness cannot wrap THIER minds around this concept ? THIER fore they deny the Son of God and His authority ? Therefore deceived by the devil !!!

  10. Hi Joe,

    Thanks for the article. I realize you wrote this awhile ago, and have already dealt with some of the objections. I think some of the confusion for non-catholics comes from the attention given to Mary, which non-catholics often translate as worship. This type of attention is natural to catholics who have practiced it for centuries, but strange to non-catholics who could find no instruction to pray to, or focus on Mary in the NT from Paul or the other apostles. I’ll offer up an example of how non-catholics can easily be confused by some of the traditions of catholics. This prayer is from Saint Alphonsus Maria de’ Liguori, who you may know was a widely read author/teacher, a bishop and also appointed a doctor of the catholic church by Pope Pius IX. I’ll just paste the prayer in it’s entirety, sourced from DailyCatholic.

    “O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the goods which God grants to us miserable sinners, and for this reason, has He made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee; come, then, to my help, dearest Mother, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands, I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me; for, if thou protect me, dear Mother, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; not even from Jesus, my Judge Himself, because, by one prayer from thee, He will be appeased. But one thing I fear; that, in the hour of temptation, I may neglect to call on thee, and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me then the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace always to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.” (bolding mine)

    Joe, reason with me here. You can see how non-catholics can interpret attention like this as heresy. This prayer has us placing our souls and ‘eternal salvation’ in the hands of Mary, becoming Mary’s servant, and even fearing nothing because of her, who is alleged to be more powerful than all of hell. Perhaps the most alarming, is the encouragement to the saints to not fear Jesus himself, because of Mary. Joe, if I read this prayer to you, pretending it was to Jesus, surely you would think it was appropriate. What do you think of this prayer?

    Liguori wrote another book called The Glories of Mary, in which he called her “The Gate of Heaven”. In this book he also quoted in agreement with Saint Bonaventure, “No one can enter Heaven unless by Mary, as though through a door.” This is clearly imagery that Jesus has given himself in John 14:6 and John 10:9 as the Way and the door to salvation.

    In just these quotes she is given the role of redeemer, appeaser of God’s wrath, saver of souls and doorway to heaven. These are clearly Jesus’ roles, can you see how this appears to be stealing attention glory from Him?

    Best,
    Kyle

    1. 1) We all have to know our Gods ways and policies. God spoke to Mary through Gabriel before her marriage, after her marriage God didn’t spoke to Mary but to Joseph bcz now she is a wife of Joseph (Christ is the head of man, man is the head of woman, God always consider authority)
      2) Mary want Jesus to help the marriage house in Cana: Even though, it was not Jesus time and hour though he did the miracle against the will of his mighty father to observe the commandment 5 “Honour your father and mother”.
      3)Sure Mary is blessed and she knew that it was wrong that she intervened in her son Jesus mission and it is against her mighty Fathers will so from that movement she kept herself silent and didn’t place any request to her son till his death.
      4) Jesus handover his mother to John at the cross because, to observe the commandment 5 “Honour your father and mother”, and John was the only one near the cross. All apostles and his brothers and sisters are scared and run away.
      5) Why Apostles didn’t mentioned anything about Joseph or Mary bcz, salvation is only through Jesus and not through anyone. They knew clearly that if they specify more about Mary and Joseph people in this generation will be diverted from Jesus. See, on their minute references about Mary people are stumbled.
      6) Apostles didn’t mention anything about Whether Jesus met his mother after his resurrection or not bcz of the same reason in 5
      7) Our God is a God of living ones and so he will listen to our prayers and so we have to pray for each other, even apostles request prayers for them. Why they didn’t intercede to Abraham, Moses, Elijah , John the Baptist or to Mother Mary (if she is assented or assumed to heaven in their life time).
      8) Mary was with John, before his death, he wrote many revelations, why he didn’t mention anything about Mary? Her death or taken to heaven? The woman with 12 stars is Jerusalem and Gods son was born in Jerusalem and Jerusalem was mentioned as “She”.
      9) All apostle wrote book in Holy spirit why they didn’t mentioned anything about her death or taken to heaven? Why Holy Spirit didn’t reveal it to them?
      10) Why we follow something not in the bible if we are truly following bible?
      11) Every congregation have their own version of bible, then why Catholic don’t incorporate their belief -Mary death or taken to heaven in to their version of Bible?
      12) Satan wants to divert people from Jesus, so he takes several forms in this world, even the form of Holy ones. In the end times he even takes the form of Jesus and presents himself to us, but the true Jesus will appear in clouds with his holy ones that Satan can’t do. Here we need spiritual Wisdom.
      My true belief in bible is that, if God want to glorify or want everyone to intercede to Mary, our God would have revealed it to all apostles.
      Jesus is the mediator between father and us who intercede for us in heaven and the helper given for us is Holy Spirit in all our need in this world

      1. The Lord thy God is a jealous God and he will not share his Glory with no others !!! Exodus 20 king james Holy Bible ! Read the True word of the Living God / it’s the only way you will ever understand truth : for without truth you shall remain deceived in following after Catholicism lies of Satan / the woman the apostate church of rev 17 who hold up a golden Cup in her hand the ( Eucharist) full of abomination/ repeating the sacrifice of the Lord over and over in Thier mass / Hebrews 10 kJV says it was a one time sacrifice never to be repeated again for the remission of sins / call no man Father for Thier is but one Holy Father in Heaven? Read the scriptures for in them you think you have Eternal life but they be them that testify of me / flee from lost idolatrous whore church of Babylonian paganism/ rev 17 kJV

  11. From my understanding, the “woman” in Revelation 12:6 is “the church” (the Christians that were chosen to be saved before the beginning of time):
    “The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.”

    This “holy mother” thing for Mary is unbiblical. And the fact that you would use a verse from Revelation makes it even more clear how much of a false doctrine this is. Every good bible scholar knows not to use Revelation as support for anything, let alone doctrine. It was a vision/dream that the writer himself didn’t even understand perfectly. It was a hotly contested book in it’s own time because of it’s “out there” nature.

    1. The only way any of us ever understand the Holy Bible or His word , can only be done thru the power of the Holy Spirit / the Holy Bible is a spiritual Book / KJV / Those that worship God must worship him Truth and in the Spirit . That’s why the Lost cannot comprehend it ? It is foolishness unto them ; they wrestle with scriptures / preachings / teachings / reading books / seminars / conventions / one can go from the cradle to the grave and never understand the mystery of Gods salvation ? That’s why we see In scriptures a Wide path ! Many shall go unto it ( destruction ) , Hell ! For they cannot see nor hear the truth : they are caught up in the traditions of men ; commandments of men ; and dictrines of demons ( Devils ) !! The world is full of this type of religions ( work based salvation ) !! Things they feel they must Do !! But in fact it has already been Done !! It’s finished !! Said jesus !! At the cross /. The free gift was offered but many refused to except it / they chose to earn it by merits , deeds , works !! Which cannot be done ! For therefore anything added is no more free ? Romans 11;6 KJV !! If it be of works ….it is no more of Grace !!

      1. Those who worry about misspelled words? When Thier soul is In jeopardy of going into Hellfire ! Not the lie of the Roman Catholics purgatory/ once in hell you stay in Hell until the Lord will throw them in the lake of Fire forever with the devil and his angels ? So instead of boasting how much more intellectual you think you might be : you should break open the a king james Holy Bible and read and stop putting your trust in your earthly Preist who by the way are already on the road to hell as teaching the in vain the doctrines of devils . My heart is that wish Catholics would one day awaken from Thier sleep before the perish !

        1. You don’t worship the Lord in truth / you worship in vain repetition as the Heathens do : do actually think you have the Holy Spirit and do all that Roman Catholicism teaches is a Lie against Holy scriptures!! You are the children of disobedience: who honor men more than you honor the Lord : in vain do they worship me saith The Lord teaching after the traditions of men ( fathers Preist popes ) the commandments of men ( Vaticanus) and doctrines of devils ( Satans doctrines) ! Your not saved being a Catholic trying to earn salvation thru works of keeping sacrements that. Cannot save the soul : Faith alone in Christ alone is what you need. But you will continue to be led astray like a lamb to the slaughterhouse of false apostasy: FALSE RELIGIONS EXSPOSED.com / go to this site and see your Grave errors of worship which the Lord thy GOD hates

    2. Thier are 2 woman mentioned in the book of revelation kJV ( not the false Latin vulgate version ) one is the woman whom the Lord protects ; ( white / bride ); The other woman mentioned in revelation 17,18 chapter kJV is a the ( apostate whore woman ) whom the Lord thy God hates , this( spiritual ) prostitution woman sits upon the the 7 mountains ( hills ) this woman whore decks herself with precious stones and Gold and is rich,: this whore church parades about in purple and red scarlet colors , rev 17 kJV ; this whore church hold up a (Golden cup ) in her hand full of abomination in her cup ? The ancient Babylonian sun god worshiping church of old has been molded into the the Roman pagan Catholic Church we see today / mixing many of Satan lies with just enough truth for it to be called a church : revelation 18 kJV says the Lord will destroy this apostate whore Church of Rome in the future with a double portions of Fire !! Because you are a Roman Catholic and have not the spirit living in you of truth, you are not born again and are still spiritual blind to understanding of the wisdom of Gods word NIETHER can you know them when you follow after a false work based Sacrement keeping church as Roman Catholicism teaches Thierfore you will remain lost under Romes spell / and you shall die in your sins not knowing the true Grace and work of God ? The Free Gift of Grace ; not of works : Ephesians 2:8,9 kJV / You should flee from this apostate whore woman church while you are able ? Time is short many shall be led astray in the last day’s ; False Religions Exposed. Com / ( Jesus is savior) type in Catholicism? You will see how much corruption you have sold your soul too ? Lord open blinded eyes that they might see !

  12. PLEASE I BEG OF YOU DECEIVED BY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ( RCC) FLEE FROM IT WITH YOUR LIVES AND YOUR SOULS !! BEFORE THE PLAQUES THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE HOLY BOOK OF THE LIVING GOD ARE PLACED UPON YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES !!!FLEE FROM THIS CHURCH OF HERESIES AND LIES OF THE DEVIL !!! Revelation 18;4 ) COME OUT FROM AMONG HER MY PEOPLE !!!! THE LORD IS GIVING A WARNING TO LEAVE SUCH AN APOSTATE WICKED ESTABLISHMENT BEFORE YOU PERISH IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR EVER!!! FALSE RELGIONS EXSPOSED .com !!! Read it please !!awaken from your sleep before it’s too late Flee with your souls !!! For you are in bondage of the Devils lies !!!!

  13. I love this article. You present your arguments quiet logically and before an umbiased mind its hard to resist your arguments. Loved reading your essays as much as I hate the comment sections 😂

  14. I cannot fathom the fact that, why are so many people mad at Roman Catholics. Yet, not one points to other pagan idol worshipers. Why the rage and agitation against Catholics 🤔

    Why won’t you just pray to your true God and leave them alone?

    I have seen a lot Protestants come to houses preaching the Word of God and accusing Catholics and other believers of heresy, yet I haven’t seen a single Roman Catholic come to houses asking to join their Church.

    Who is anyone to say you will go to hellfire?
    What is burning your stomachs against Catholics?
    If they are to burn in hellfire as you proclaim, wouldn’t that bring you joy?

    Can’t you people go to your Church and pray from the Roman Catholics? Can’t you be nice and humble to others. Can you henceforth stop mingling in the affairs of Catholics.

    1. Ye do err from the scriptures , nor knowing the power of God Matthew 22:29 KJV ; Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the WORD of God ? The only way a soul on earth gets saved is when a born again believer of Jesus speaks the word of God in truth into the air and the recipient hears the words spoken in truth and begins to believe the truth and seek after the truth that will make them free !!The Truth will make ye free kJV ! Yet this is not done inside the walls of Catholicism? They mix lies with truth ? Just one Example : the Holy Word of the Living God reveals in scriptures KJV ; Thier is but ONE MEDIATOR, between heaven and earth the man CHRIST JESUS ; 2 Tim 2:15 KJV yet Roman Catholicism teaches Thier are more than ONE MEDIATOR?? You need the mother Mary as a mediatrix , you need saints ? You need a priest as a mediator? Not so !! Lies of the devil indeed ; because Catholics want read the Bible for themselves they are led astray easily by these religions impostors/ ? The greatest Love that any born again Christian could ever do is to Warn others of their error and show them they are headed to most grieving destinations if they remain in Thier state ? Rev 18;4 kJV reveals come out from among her my people and be ye not part of her sins that ye receive not her plaques ? A warning to all who follow apostate churches and satans lies ?

    2. You do err from the truth not knowing the power of God ? For the Lord thy God wishes that none should perish? I too wish that a Roman Catholic would wake up and not be sent into hell and be born again? What is the Greatest Love on earth that man gives his life for another ? If you are walking under a bridge and I see the beams beginning to break loose and you are direct contact underneath of being crushed to death ? And I scream out to you in a loud voice ? WATCH OUT RUN !!! And you Look at me and flee with speed ? And the bridge collapsed and total destruction is all around ? And you realize that had I not shouted at you to run you would have died in a Pyle of concrete and steel ? Would you thank me ? With gratitude when you realize what might have been had you heard the warning ?this is why who you call ( Protestants ) yell and scream saying we hate Catholics ? No we hate the falling bridge of steel over your heads that shall surly fall on them all in time ? We as the Lord thy God wish that none should perish and die in Thier sins and go into Hell ?out of love we warn and are hated for it !

  15. No human, physical incarnate spirit, is “qualified” to judge! Another or all other, that is held only in the authority given to our Lord of our father who created and thus owns us each and every one! Do unto others as we would enjoy done unto us, prosecute another, prosecute oneself, he our holy father does thus then prosecute against us our done deeds of our will. Him our whole holy! Father is the ONE only qualified! To do this as he is our literal maker and thus does dwell within us each one and all hence he sees and hears in the quiet secret place of space that is in our hearts, he and he alone “only” sees and hears our true intentions of motive thus formed in thought and physical actions there to. We need first to understand and accept only that what we do to each other and our mother is earth, we literally! Do into unto him personally and thus we abided in him shall he prosecute our actions! In this earthly clay formed vessel life he has given us with free form free to choose chosen will against us, the spirit of argument and opinionated judgement is the fruit of “his” thus “our” adversary! The fallen arbitrator of broken heart and false! Of his divine just! Justice.

    1. Ye do err from the truth , not knowing the will of God ,? Jesus said while on earth ? Let no man deceive you by any means ? Why ? Because He knew that deceptions and lies of the Word of God , would come from the devil and man would adhere to doctrines of devils , commandments of men ? And traditions of men ? That’s why He did say IN VAIN DO YE WORSHIP ME !! It is the saved soul on earth whom the Holy Spirit convicts to warn others of them that are deceived ? Roman Catholicism is the Greatest deception on planet Earth the seat of Satan himself / revelation 17 KJV ) here is the mind which hath wisdom ??reveals that this place of the devils sits upon 7 mountains) ( hills ) ? Only place on earth ? With a religious system so vast sitting within the 7 hills of Rome ; the Vatican!! Revelation 18 shows the Roman Babylonian system when it’s doom shall come ; boasting Iam The Queen of Heaven ? Iam no widow? She is no widow because Satan is married to her ; she rides the Beast ( Satan ) Rome seat is upon Satans back : Satan CARRIETH HER !!! KJV ! So your universal Love Oprah Winfrey church all shall go to heaven is a lie from the devil ? Catholic means universal? Claiming to be the only true path to the kingdom of God ? No my good Freind you are not understanding the Gospel? Jesus wishes that none should perish ( go into Hell being deceived?) so that’s why he sends them out to warn and tell others beware of the works of the devil and the powers of darkness because they are inside religious man made systems of the devil himself? How shall they hear lest they hear from a preacher or evangelist? Sent to warn them ?

    2. It’s amazing to me / how the Catholics are quick to say no one can judge ? No man on earth can judge ? Yet Thier own Preist judge them constantly? A bit hypocritical don’t you think ? What power from heaven has been given to man that does not understand The Lords plan of salvation? This man hold The Holy scriptures in his hands and ignores the Word of the living God ? When it written in sacred words of the Holy Spirit/ call no man on earth ( father ) or (Holy Father) for Thier is but one Holy Father in Heaven!! Yet they ignore this with a passion so that they might be revered upon by the uneducated and unbelieving to be even be led more astray ? Lord help them get saved ? Jesus rebuked the high minded puffed up jews of religious status in his day / saying in vain do ye worship me – teaching after the traditions of men , the commandments of men and the doctrines of devils !! This is precisely what Roman Catholicism is its hierarchy of popes and priests / they follow a succession of men whom they call the fathers and commandments of Sacrements that men hold over them like a swords to the throats ? Unless a souk follows Thier made up work based plan of salvation the souls go to purgatory? What a lie from the devil himself !! Unbiblical Mumbo jumbo at best ? When a soul goes into Hell Thier is only one way he gets out ? He’s cast into the Lake of Fire by Jesus Christ himself at the end of the 1000 year reign on earth : but a Catholic does not know this because they have never read the truth nor spoken to Baptist who would surly be more than happy to led them into the straight and narrow path that leads to life and not death ? Yet over 1 Billion Roman Catholics choose to remain deceived on the wide path ?

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